Another Load Of Clap-Trap?

Miranda apparently uses “Rose Quartz Crystal Energized Water” in her KORA products, how quaint. I did a quick search and found this site.

Now, for those of you who can’t be bothered to click on the link, this is a quote from the lady who posted about this:

“I asked my husband, who capabilities a PhD in biophysics, to aid me comment on this ridiculous claim. He writes “Rose quartz is rose due to trace amounts of titanium, iron, or manganese and just because of the stupid pink colour it is connected to love. Quartz structures are extremely tight and wouldn’t retailer any energy, such as kinetic power in vibrations.” you’ll be inside a position to make quartz and other vitamins and supplements vibrate, as they’re utilized in watches and other electronic devices, but that calls for creating use of the exterior pressure on the mineral. They don’t have “vibrations” on their own. (Here’s more on that.) What’s more is that water has no “memory” and it’s been well confirmed that “liquid water does not protect purchased networks of molecules prolonged than a small fraction of a nanosecond.” (That quote is from Wikipedia.)”

So basically, rose quartz infused water is a pile of baloney (according to someone who has a PhD in biophysics but maybe a dermatologist would know more? lol). I checked every KORA product ingredient but can’t find this “love water”. Maybe this slipped their minds? Maybe they don’t actually use it? Maybe they just couldn’t be bothered to type “Rose Quartz Crystal Energized Water” as an ingredient time after time? Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’d have thought every ingredient used would have to be stated? Also how can water promote self love? And what is self love anyways? Masturbation?

~ by Kerrazy Lies on January 28, 2011.

27 Responses to “Another Load Of Clap-Trap?”

  1. She has stated at some point that she’s a bit of a hippie (I forget the interview), because that love infused rose quartz junk sounds like something a hippie wound say… or someone who is high as a kite.

    • Or she wants people to think she’s deeper than the puddle she is and intuned with the energies of the universe.

      All I want to know is: IS whora certified organic already? Has it gotten a true certification stamp or is that word still just being thrown around in her blog?

      • I just checked the list ecocert has on their site, and I don’t see KORA on there still.

  2. Basically, Miranda is a massive fan of pseudo-science and she seems dumb enough to believe it too.

    • It seems so and I honestly don’tn like when some people act as if they know everything about everything. To each is own, why doesn’t she let dermatologysts do their jobs and she keeps doing what she can do best (modeling/taking clothes off?)? (still don’t think she is the best model ever, just saying)

  3. I thought this was interesting, because I know MK has mentioned it a couple of times in past interviews that before she “created” KORA she apparently used Dermalogica (and I think she once suggested someone to use it on one of her FBs but don’t hold me to that). While I don’t know if they changed ingredients or not as they say they use natural ingredients, and on their site I haven’t come across any ingredients for any of their products, just primary ingredients. I had to resort to another site in order to find any ingredients, an example of one of their products Dermalogica Essential Cleansing Solution, and the ingredients listed: Bitter Orange (Citrus Auantium Amara) Flower Extract, Caprylic/CapricTriglyceride, Butylene Glycol, Safflower (Carthamus tinctorius) Oil, PEG-8, Polysorbate 60, Cetyl Alcohol, Sorbitan Stearate, Ricinoleth-40, Beeswax, Ceresin, Octyl Hydroxystearate, Tocopheryl Acetate, Ascorbyl Palmitate, Extracts Of:, Hops (Humulus Lupulus), Rosemary (rosmarinus officinalis), Horsetail (Equisetum arvense), Pine (Pinus Sylvestris) Cone, Lemon (Citrus Medica Limonum), Diazolidinyl Urea, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Propylene Glycol, Dimethicone, Triethanolamine, Carbomer, Disodium EDTA, Benzophenone-4

    What I’ve linked is to the cosmetic database which gives hazard levels and such.

    If she ever claimed that she used natural skin care prior to her own skincare line, it’s not true. What’s listed above, while has natural ingredients, also has very harsh ingredients that are considered a hazard. Several ones that some skin care lines and even some make-up brands that try to avoid (PEGs, parabens).

    And that shall be my random post for the day xD

    • Thanks for that post. I think she could say “well that is why I created my own skincare because I wasnt happy 100% with other skin products”. Ive always thought the less ingredients a “natural” products has the better, what you have listed are way too many ingredients and think this can also be said for most of the KORA range. I think if she has advised someone to use it or sung its praises then she obviously liked it so she didnt care she was putting that rubbish on her face.

      • Her products have long list of ingredients, I just found it interesting that what she used to use was in fact very harsh for skin. I’ll go out on a limb and say maybe that’s why she created her own. Something else that I wanted to point out, I recently had to switch skincare lines and did in fact go to a natural line (definitely not KORA ;x) due to the parabens in what I was previously using. I figured I’d post what the ingredients are for the cleanser that I use now, which is cold-pressed processed to preserve the ingredients, plus they use an enzyme for foaming, here are the ingredients for the Toner Tea Bar I use: Agua (Distilled Water), Glucose Polymers, Vegetable Oils, Aloe Saponins, Yucca (Yucca Schidigera) Extract, Hamamelis Virginiana Extract (Witch Hazel), Camellia Sinensis Leaf Extract (Black Tea), Camellia Sinensis (White Tea) Extract (Green Tea), Lecithin, Honey, Aloe Vera (Aloe Barbadensis) Extract, Beta Glucosamine, Essential Oil, Rubus Idaeus Oil (Raspberry), Citrus Grandis (Grapefruit) Seed Extract (Grapefruit)

        Absolutely no sulfates, benzyl alcohol, glycerin or anything that is harsh for the skin.

        When I look at ingredients for her products, then the ingredients of another line like this one, her products appear to be much more… chemical based than an actual natural skincare line. Unlike her line, this one that I found comes out of LA from an established facial spa.

        Should also include that I had a consultation via e-mail where I sent what my skin problems were to my contact and she suggested products for me to try, but wanted me to try samples first we could find out what would work with my skin and what wouldn’t. She didn’t just tell me “oh well, buy this and if this doesn’t work, then buy this”. I was sent samples of the products to use for free, and once we established what worked, I purchased the real products. Never once was anything pushed on me, and if it didn’t work it wasn’t “Oh well, keep using the products and give it three months because it’s not MY products it’s just you” nor was it *ignore*.

        Also, I was told that results take roughly 2 weeks.

        I wanted to post this for a while because there are much more natural skin care lines than how she acts as if she’s the first to create one.

        I’m off my box now ;D

      • Thanks for the info. I find it very interesting that a good skin care range, like the one you are using, can keep away from the harsh chemicals yet KORA has so many. I never understand why these chemicals are needed in the first place when a product can work just as well without.

        I also think its great that they give samples, I think all skin care companies should (but big companies like Clarins dont) and like you say, just telling the customer its their fault and to carry on using it or switch to another same brand when things go wrong is terrible and under hand.

        Thanks for sharing!!

  4. It’s compulsive with her, the lying. She opens her mouth and bullshit pops out and she can’t really help it because what few brain cells she has are too hungry to work properly. I don’t understand why his people don’t shut her up and get her off the intertubes. She makes him look bad. When you are married to a twit like that everyone assumes you are a twit yourself. Not that I can argue against that notion at this point.

    • I agree, it does make him look like he is as thick and stupid as her, I don’t get why he doesn’t stop her, or at least stop her from speaking on his behalf. Still I can’t help but think he is stupider than her at times, after all he got her pregnant, he was stupid to risk effing her lol

      • He was stupid to get involved with her at all. It was pretty obvious, at least I thought it was, what she was after in this “relationship.” She got exactly what she wanted from him from the start. This played out exactly the way she planned, imo. If I could see this coming from the begining and HE couldn’t…well, yeah, he is pretty damned stupid.

      • How true! A lot of us saw this coming from day.1- and like you say, we saw it yet he didn’t??? I mean surely after he has been famous a while he must know who are the gold diggers and who aren’t? I’m sure he must’ve been warned even by his friends and family, having sex with her was the biggest mistake of his life- why did he do it, when he could have gotten it anywhere from a woman who didn’t want to trap him with a kid, or even an escort, I always thought he was stupid- but not THAT stupid :/ it beggars belief!

      • I think most times, when the person is closest to the problem, he actually doesn’t see it for himself. That’s where family and really close friends who care for you, come in and try to point it out to you. Either no one tried to advise him regarding her…or he was so proud to be effing a VS modul, outside forces never came into consideration. She’s such a liar in everything, she could be doing all those guys she seemed to be hanging around with AND their uncles in addition to occasionally “hanging out” with O, while telling O that he was the only one in her life, and he would totally believe her. Why wouldn’t he? If they gave out degrees in lying, she’d prolly have a PhD in Lyinthology.

      • I guess it is highly possible that is what it was, I guess he was too busy getting his jollies from her that I would assume things like Pregnancy and STD’s would be a case of “that wont happen to me “maybe in his mind also. I do think she did fool him about the real her for a long, long time, I think he does know now what she is like, I am sure he should do. His biggest mistake was not getting those closest to him to monitor her activities online and what she said in the media about him, if he had kept a close eye on that then he probably wouldnt have gotten this far with her.

        I really hope for his sake, and the kids, that he has gotten/will get a paternity test just for his peace of mind, knowing what we do about her and other guys, well.. he doesnt want to be paying out for a kid that isnt his 😉

  5. yes, it is compulsive with her to lie. I wonder what kind of relationship somebody can have with a person who spends the whole day telling lies, stupid lies and talking about energetic properties of those minerals. I love the post about the PhD bio. Some common sense from a reliable source. He is paying dearly to be so blind as to let her get her way with a pregnancy.

  6. Getting back to the original topic – I do think you should be careful in what you say about
    the effects that such things as crystals or gems have on the human body.
    I know believing in that is called esoteric.
    Still, for years and years, homeopathic medcine as well as traditional chinese medicine
    has been called pseudo science too, scientists have said that is doesn’t work,
    cannot work. Now my city seems to have someone practising homeopathic medicine
    on every street corner and many people who have been laughing before go there
    now because they’ve been disillusioned by school medicine, like me.

    I have come to a healthy distrust of doctors and scientists and get my
    own opinion about things. I don’t condemn school medicine, but they tend
    to claim they know it all, and they definitely do not.
    I don’t want to claim that rose quartz really infuses self love or whatever.
    Personally, I don’t feel any effect by crystals, but my mother
    swears on them. And I would not call her “someone who is high
    as a kite” and “dumb” thank you very much. Many things can have effects on the body,
    if only you believe strong enough in them, and even if it’s only your
    mind playing a trick: If it works, why not use it?
    “It seems so and I honestly don’tn like when some people act as if they know everything about everything.”
    Then why do you (and I’m talking to everybody, please don’t feel insulted that I picked out your statement) claim you KNOW rose quartz absolutely, without a single little doubt has any effect?
    You just accepting the statement by some “PhD in biophysics”, who (I’m guessing)
    you do not know (especially if he is any good at his job) as a “reliable source” just like that is not any different than Mirandas Fans simply believing in what she says. A shiny title doesn’t make someone competent. You believe in it because it fits your vison of the world.

    If you go by that (yes, maybe a bit far-fetched, still), you could also say christians, muslims, buddhists etc., basically every religious person is “someone who is high as a kite” because nothing of their beliefs have been or will ever be proven. I know that opinion exists, still, that belief has helped a lot of people so why be mean and make fun of it? You can have your own beliefs, but insulting those who have others is narrow-minded to me.

    I use a german line of natural scincare, which is certified by NaTrue,
    it has many ingredients which I feel have a great effect on my skin,
    that however have never been proven to work by scientists. In Germany, any scincare not sold as medicine in a pharmacy has not been proven to work scientifically, because anything that really does work has to be declared medicine and is not allowed to be sold freely in drug stores. Does that mean everything sold at a drugstore is crap?

    I do agree on the bigger thought though and have to say that I find it
    disputable, letting it sound like something has a proven effect, like I feel Kora does. I think it’s good to point that out and give another view on the subject, for those who follow so blindly as if kora was the epitome of natural scincare and there has never been anything like it before. But to simply claim that that crystal has no effect at all is the same thing they do – just the other way round.

    Now, don’t attack me because I didn’t bash the whole rose quartz story, but I feel comments are starting to sound exactly as hypocratical as Mirandas fans think. Rather concentrate on those issues that are a lot more questionable – like that kora still seems to have no official certification!

    • I do agree with a lot of what you say but I know neither Miranda nor this person with a PhD personally but I will take the word of someone more qualified in such matters over someone who isn’t. The problem I have with Miranda and KORA, is that she does state things as fact (this WILL work, this DOES that etc) and the rose quartz was one of these things. Like you say, it all goes on what you believe, personally, I do believe in homeopathic/herbal remedies. Scientists may say it’s a placebo effect but I disagree, studies have been done to show homeopathic/herbal remedies have worked on animals but these animals do not know what is being done to them. I agree scientists dont know it all, in any shape or form, but as I said earlier, I would rather take the word of someone who knows what they are talking about over someone who doesn’t. I’m not saying the person with the PhD is spot on but I think he may have more knowledge than Miranda ever could, even though she likes to fool people into thinking she knows more than the whole world put together. Crystals have not worked for me but even if it is “all in the mind” technically they are still not working but I get what you mean. I just think there is more evidence out there that says crystals don’t work rather than do.

      Regarding the certification – we are still waiting. Last I heard it was still in the process, this was approx 3/4 weeks ago.

    • I’m one of those who uses homeopathic/herbal remedies mainly because I feel that going to the doctor tends to make matters worse. However, I have a hard time believing in her rose quartz self-love infused water that she claims is in her products ( I just went through all of her products and ingredients and didn’t even see the mention of any type of water in them, glycerin yes, water no). If someone believes in crystals, that’s fine, but I don’t.

      As Kerrazy already mentioned, it comes down to the fact that she practically guarantees that her products WILL work for everyone with every sort of skin type out there (with a very small selection of products). And if someone mentions that they developed a rash, or broke out from her products, she either tells them they aren’t using the products correctly, ignores them, directs them to an e-mail address because she either doesn’t want to and/or doesn’t know the answer/want to answer, or the big one that she likes to do, inform them of more products they should purchase (that annoys me more so than her claims of rose quartz infused water).

  7. I felt this should be brought to attention. Seeing as “Matthew” is currently posting to KORA’s FB someone must have mentioned which oils are harmful during pregnancy. From how he types and such, fast with spelling and grammar problems, I felt his response was too.. informative. Didn’t fit his nature.

    His Response

    And now what I just found on a website: Aromatherapy can be a great benefit during pregnancy and assists in minimizing some of the discomfort and aches.

    There are however some compounds in certain essential oils that have hormone-like behavior because of their molecular structure and although there is no conclusive evidence on the effect of estrogenic oils it would be prudent to avoid anethole rich oils, like fennel and aniseed during pregnancy.

    Word for word, and same exact structure that came from these two sites [source/main source], he doesn’t go into the toxic nature some oils may have though, and the reactions others can cause (Heaven forbid that would mean possibly pregnant women in their first trimester may not buy her products! For shame!)

    • Oh look, plagiarism runs in the family.

      Also, 3 to 5 WEEKS for shipping to the US? The hell kind of service are they using?? I’ve ordered things from the US before and it’s been here in NZ within the week. AND it has further to go. What a frickin rip off.

      • Contradicting also runs in the family, straight from KORA’s site Most destinations World Wide will be delivered within 5-10 working days. He says they like to say 3 to 5 weeks, yet no where on the site does it say that.

      • Hm, I just checked it falls under their check out when you calculate shipping. This is what it comes up with:

        Standard International Shipping (delivery time depending on country may take up to 3 to 5 weeks): $30.00
        Priority International Shipping (delivery time depending on country will be up to 7 business days): $50.00

      • Still, 3 to 5 weeks is pretty steep. 5-10 DAYS is much more likely and normal. Are they sending it by container ship? Do ships even take weeks to get anywhere anymore?

      • Knowing her, they’re probably sent by tug boat. I do know what with certain countries she’s had problems with customs (even with the proper paper work with the amount inside the package and what the goods are, they still have been held up).

      • So Matty has a touch of plagiarism too and KORA gets shipped via surface mail?? Why am I not surprised. To charge that much money and to send it surface (or so it sounds), KORA are either incredibly greedy or are needing to make as much profit as possible because KORA isnt really doing that well.

  8. I think it’s safe to assume that KORA doesn’t have a mass production of products. The Rose Hip Oil sold out, I think a week or two ago, and dear brother, Matty said that the product won’t be back in stock for another three weeks.

    Also noticed, one or two other people saying they’ve been using KORA for 6+ months and haven’t had any results (including the suggestion that one may have cysts on her ovaries), and one of those people saying they have the entire range.

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